Those are hilarious!

Getting press is really not that hard if you just give journalists what they need & want. I’m so amazed that when I respond to a press request how happy journalists are to hear from me — when all I do is answer the question and help them out. They just want answers to their questions & help to write a good article that will get approved by their editor. Why don’t people get it? Make a journalist’s job and life easy, and they will quote you and give you free publicity. And, it’s actually fun!

~ Elizabeth

I don’t see what’s wrong with the last one :)

I know it’s identified as “farce,” but I’ll bet you’ve seen actual responses that were even worse.

Peter, great post, great site, sad but true responses. No different than during the 20 years I spent in journalism before going into PR. What do journalists really want from PR people? See my answer to that question here:
http://ezinearticles.com/?Forg.....038;id=694

Like I say to execs, “Answer the question – their question, not the one you’d like it to be.”

This reminds me of a great story I read many years ago — if someone remembers more details than I do, help me out. It was a story written in a business publication that ONLY wrote on public companies. The reporter was pitched by a PR person who represented the family-owned gum company (Wrigley’s???) On a whim, the reporter called back the “flack” (I can say “flack” because I R 1.) The reporter told her he only wrote about public companies and asked what information his readers might gain from a story about her privately-held, closely-held, ultra-secretive about their financials client. Without missing a beat, the flack says, “Well, they chew gum, don’t they?”

But there is more to this story, for me anyway — I immediately thought about all the answers I would have given — how my client competes against a specific public company, or maybe the advantages of being private versus public companies. I can see a number of ways this reporters’ readers would have benefited from a story on this firm if the reporter would have thought outside the box. Does this make me a bad person or a good PR person?

Wow, it reminds me of an old song, “Clueless, incredibly clueless…dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb” (don’t remember the artist, sorry).

I like Bobbie Carlton’s response; there are lots of ways to connect a not-exactly-what-they’re-looking-for client with a reporter query that definitely would work.

Example: when Peter sent a query from the AP about Elliot Spitzer that was looking for something very specific, this response got a positive reply in less tha an hour and a half:

“If you’d consider a sidebar on why people who build a career on high ethics standards fall so hard when they fall, I’d be glad to be a source. I blog regularly on the intersections of ethics, politics, media, and marketing, and wrote an award-winning book on ethics: Principled Profit: Marketing That Puts People First. I’ve posted a press release on this at http://www.principledprofit.com/spitzer.html” (I didn’t keep the original query)

To chime-in on Bobbie’s post about being a bad/good PR person, as a former newspaper editor who is now on the other side of the fence, I can appreciate thinking about the different angles that a reporter may have missed; there’s nothing wrong with mentioning these to the reporter as long as you can fully answer his or her original question in the first place. There are a kazillion reasons why a reporter may be searching for a specific answer or angle, and they very well may have already considered those other options but for some other reason — many times beyond their control — they are looking for a certain thing and by bringing up all the other angles in your initial contact you may be eating up their precious time or feeding their existing frustration over not being able to pursue the other angles. Providing a specific answer to their query first is still the way to go; after they bite, then pitching the other angles in a two-way conversation is totally appropriate, in my opinion, and for me at least as a reporter would be much appreciated.

Wow! Not ONLY has Peter ripped off ProfNet, but now he’s ripping off The Bad Pitch Blog too!
. I would expect a phone call from the Bad Pitch peeps too! ;-)

I’m kidding about the Bad Pitch People calling. They usually strick in the middle of the night with the stealth of a parapalegic ninja.

On a serious note, I have become amazed at the pitifully high amount of bullsh*t we PR people as a whole force reporters to deal with. Recently, I’ve responded to ProfNets and to Shankman’s queries, and received back notes from reporters telling me that 1) thanks but no thanks, I have what I need and, 2) thank you for actually reading my query and repying on-topic.

Is it SO bad that reporters now feel like they have to compliment us when we do our jobs correctly?

Peter

With the exception of number 7, all of these have the ring of truth about them. I suspect sometimes that PR execs have little forms they tick when responding to pitches which they then use to justify their bills at the end of the month.

A bad pitch isn’t the end of the world – but it wastes time. So, when I discuss these issues with PR colleagues, I like to tell them about an occasionally used feature of email called “auto delete”. Get yourself or your agency a name for sending these pitches, and you’ll quickly join the list of People Whose Emails I Will Never Read Again.

Since when did “wave of the future” become the must-have phrase to include in a pitch!? LOL. I missed that memo.

I used to have a few clients that, for whatever reason, had their own ProfNet subscriptions. It chills me to the bone to think about what kind of tripe they pitched out on a daily basis.

Too rich.
Kathleen Lisson

Not-so-funny JOKE:
Query: Looking to speak to estimators or project managers experienced in residential construction.

Software Training facility hiring out of work super-indendents to train estimating software.

Too funny! I love the way the absurdity grows in the examples but the point is the same.

If you’re totally free with time, my quotes on FaceBook id=772309580 follow a similar format. My favorite quotes organized to make a story/point/series… what the helll? They link up in some way….

BTW – Amazon is selling Peter’s book for like 11 bucks. The wit and jokes alone are worth more than that…

>Wow! Not ONLY has Peter ripped off ProfNet, but now he’s ripping off The Bad Pitch Blog too!

Andy: The Bad Pitch Blog, while wonderful, was launched in 2006. Peter has been writing about bad pitching for the entirety of his blog’s existence (inception: May 2005).

One such post:
http://shankman.com/rule-1-don.....e-clients/

Off Topic: Regarding today’s e-mail about rental cars
Peter, you were complaining about Avis upgrading you to a Cadillac. I understand it’s difficult to switch when you’ve built up status with one vendor. I just wanted to let you know we have had a great experience with elite status on National. The beauty with National is that you get both the upgrade and the ability to choose your car by walking the Executive section of the lot. Even with no elite status, you get to choose your car from the central selection on the lot.