PETER SHANKMAN
| POSTED ON January 15th, 2009 | 547 COMMENTS | + ADD YOUR COMMENT |
This particular Twitter posting came back to bite the agency person from Ketchum (New York office) who made some unflattering remarks about Memphis this morning before he presented on digital media to the worldwide communications group at FedEx (150+) people. Not only did an employee find it, they were totally offended by it and responded to the agency person. The kicker is that they copied the FedEx Coporate Vice President, Vice President, Directors and all management of FedEx’s communication department AND the chain of command at Ketchum. Mr. Andrews, the Ketchum presenter, did not take into account that many FedExers are native Memphians and are feircely defensive of their city and their company.
Mr. Andrews,
If I interpret your post correctly, these are your comments about Memphis a few hours after arriving in the global headquarters city of one of your key and lucrative clients, and the home of arguably one of the most important entrepreneurs in the history of business, FedEx founder Fred Smith.
Many of my peers and I feel this is inappropriate. We do not know the total millions of dollars FedEx Corporation pays Ketchum annually for the valuable and important work your company does for us around the globe. We are confident however, it is enough to expect a greater level of respect and awareness from someone in your position as a vice president at a major global player in your industry. A hazard of social networking is people will read what you write.
Not knowing exactly what prompted your comments, I will admit the area around our airport is a bit of an eyesore, not without crime, prostitution, commercial decay, and a few potholes. But there is a major political, community, religious, and business effort underway, that includes FedEx, to transform that area. We’re hopeful that over time, our city will have a better “face” to present to visitors.
James, everyone participating in today’s event, including those in the auditorium with you this morning, just received their first paycheck of 2009 containing a 5% pay cut… which we wholeheartedly support because it continued the tradition established by Mr. Smith of doing whatever it takes to protect jobs.
Considering that we just entered the second year of a U.S. recession, and we are experiencing significant business loss due to the global economic downturn, many of my peers and I question the expense of paying Ketchum to produce the video open for today’s event; work that could have been achieved by internal, award-winning professionals with decades of experience in television production.
Additionally Mr. Andrews, with all due respect, to continue the context of your post; true confession: many of my peers and I don’t see much relevance between your presentation this morning and the work we do in Employee Communications.
Be careful, people. In this day and age, you can’t afford not to.
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Absolutely! I had a blog (anonymous) and got fired because of it. Caution is key. |
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Day-mn! Did dude at least get some A1 sauce to go with the foot in his mouth? |
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What would you have paid to see Mr. Andrews face upon learning this news?! Great find and excellent point with this post! |
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Wow! That just about dropped my jaw. Nicely written riposte on Fedex’s part. |
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Not a great way to convert social media shy executives. I’m sure he probably meant no harm, very unfortunate. |
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Well, if his seminar on Social Media is a success, his pupils can read all about him insulting their city on his Twitter account. |
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That’s quite painful. How can you be so oblivious. He probably drives around n the sunshine with his headlights and wipers on too. Jeesh |
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Like I tell my students, “Loose quips (tweets) sink ships.” Great article, thanks for sharing a very valuable lesson. |
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To be honest, Peter, I’m shocked that a VP at Ketchum didn’t know better. |
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Never say anything on-line that you wouldn’t want your mother — or your client — to see. |
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I’m very surprised that someone of that level (to be speaking at FedEx corp) would make this mistake. Just goes to show we can all be more careful! |
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Crikey, that`s a mighty stinger in the bum! He event went as far as to somewhat “agree” with Mr. Andrews. Not necessary, but truly a sign of grace under fire. |
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Thanks for sharing. I always coach new hires: if you don’t want it to end up on the front page of a major newspaper, don’t put it in email, IM or online. Another classic example! |
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@That Lawyer Dude – you’re missing the point. You don’t bite the hand that feeds you — especially in agency PR. Whether he meant it as a joke is irrelevant, it wasn’t interpreted that way. |
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It’s like what I’m always telling my daughters–don’t say on AIM, IM, text or in email–and now on Twitter, Facebook or MySpace–what you wouldn’t say to someone’s face. Leah Ingram |
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We spend much of our time talking about the benefits of social media. Here’s an example of the pitfalls. I have a feeling that this could be a costly tweet. |
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Wow. Great example of how what you say on social media, especially if you have cultivated a large following, can take on a life of its own… for better or for worse. |
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he sure hit a spot. I do feel for him, though – a lot of us have made similar mistakes, especially those of us in careers that allow for a lot of individuality. |
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Also, was this FedEx guy stalking Andrews online? How else did he come across his Twitter message? How creepy. |
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Surveying a variety of tweets, here’s a suggested list of words that aren’t synonymous with “tweet about” that he should have read beforehand. |
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This tweet is far more tame than what most people actually think about. Someday a device will be invented in which all thoughts will be public and I wonder what that will bring. |
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Ouch! Snap! But seriously. Now I’m going to have to go to Memphis and see for myself. |
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Did FedEx sack the employee who said Memphis is full of crime, prostitution, decay, and potholes? Or do they only burn outsiders at the stake? |
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Very appropriate, someone once compared what you say on the internet to writing things on a billboard on the side of the highway. You think people don’t notice it, but they do. |
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I bet this hasn’t done much to change keyinfluencer’s opinion of Memphis. |
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Is that it? Really?! Have you people BEEN to Memphis? Dude was bein’ KIND! |
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I agree with Shel. He should have known better. I’m also kind of saddened that a VP at Ketchum would have the Twitter user name “keyinfluencer.” Tacky, tacky, tacky. |
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Since Mr. Andrews was on a business trip, he was acting as a representative of his agency. Clearly, he did not follow the PRSA Code of Ethics, http://www.prsa.org/aboutUs/et.....le_en.html, which demands that a PR professional be accountable for his or her actions and act in a manner that shows loyalty to the client. Additionally, the PR professional is called to be honest, but that counsel should take place privately with the client. Mr. Andrews also demonstrated a lapse in client relations, which is: Understand the client and the client’s sensitivities. FYI, the FedEx employee in question is in their corporate communications department, which very likely monitors what people are saying about FedEx as a part of their PR duties–nothing strange or creepy about that. Given the fact that millions of dollars are involved, Mr. Andrews did himself and his employer a disservice by placing the client in a totally defensive posture. And as for humor, if BOTH parties cannot get joy from it, then it’s probably not that funny. |
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I just posted an article about this type of thing. By the way, the webcast tonight was FANTASTIC! WayneSutton.tv was great. Thank you! |
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Who’s interested in applying for the new Ketchum VP slot that will be open later today??? Perks include flying to Memphis and cleaning up a mess. |
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So true. Never say anything publicly that you wouldn’t say to the person’s face who your are dis’ing. It’s just bad form. |
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In today’s day and age, it’s so vitally important that people watch what they say and write, regardless of the forum. As we advise our clients, the interview is never over. Things that were assumed off the record have all too often ended up in bold print, spokespeople victims of “gotcha” journalism. With social media platforms open for any and everyone to see, it’s all the more important that people mind themselves as you never know who is listening, watching or reading. |
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I won’t dare judge either party on their opinions and actions. But true, we must all be cognizant of what we write on the Internet. Once it’s written, it’s there for good. As long as we’re aware of that fact, then we can stand at our own defense. I wrote a little about that a couple of weeks ago: http://blog.keithparnell.com/i.....nd-online/ Keith Parnell |
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What a great listen – and such a horrible way to learn it. You just can’t be too careful these days. |
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“stuck inside of memphis with those new york blues again.” didn’t dylan sing that? funny post, peter. not so funny for the ketchum guy. but I find the whole “social media ‘expert’ gets burned by social media” meme wonderfully ironic. fyi, you are now marginally more famous: http://blogs.computerworld.com.....ter_tricks cheers, dt |
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Whaaaaa… Someone said something mean about my city… Whaaaaaa… CRY BABIES! |
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Yikes! I bet he’ll think twice now before twittering! The whole world is always listening! |
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I encourage everyone to watch the PBS special “The Advent of Money” with professor Niall Ferguson. He uses Memphis as an example and its extraordinarily high rate of bankruptcies per capita. |
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i feel sorry for all of you corporate whores who have to put up with this stuff |
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One thing I’ve learn from the military. People just can’t stop talking until they’ve made and ass out of themselves. True fact. |
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I attended his conference Thursday via the web — I have to say, this certainly puts a different slant on the view he shared. |
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Great point about being aware of what you post in SM. But at the same time, a painful overreaction. And gang mentality on blog comment sections ahoy! |
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In response to comment #6 by Tyler Hurst – Perhaps you should take your own advice…I’m shocked that people in this day and age still think it’s ok to call other people ‘retards’. |
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@dantynan: EXACTLY. The value of his presentation is greatly lessened in my eyes, because he’s proven he has no idea what he’s talking about. |
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I just had a conversation about stuff like this yesterday, that can be summed up as, “In today’s world, be extra careful about what you say or do. You can’t ever afford to piss anybody off.” |
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Anyone notice that the next day, he had posted this: “Having a great day with my new friends at #Fedex” |
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He would have loved Memphis if he had eaten at The Rendezvous! I’d go there today if I wasn’t stuck in Chicago. Wait…I don’t mean stuck…I’m mean lucky to be in…? Really – I love it here!! |
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Yes, Andrews. As in the wife of James Andrews. Read on: http://funkidivagirl.com/2009/.....ing-about/ |
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This case raises some interesting issues. The offending tweet (and tweeter) http://twitter.com/keyinfluenc.....1119553072 did not reveal the name of the client or the city. He was clearly within his boundaries expressing his personal opinion. That his client picked up the tweet, put it together and essentially bullied him in what amounts to a power play, “The kicker is that they copied the FedEx Coporate Vice President, Vice President, Directors and all management of FedEx’s communication department AND the chain of command at Ketchum” is a living case study on how the social web is clashing with command and control enterprise DNA. Andrews has the right to speak his mind, the FedEx gotcha employee had a right to be offended, but where this goes off course is when the company exercised its commercial relationship to embarrass Ketchum and perhaps exacerbate a souring agency relationship. Like Memphis’ urban renewal, the social web is predicated on “a major political, community, … and business effort … to transform.” Free speech and candor is the armor worn by those of us fighting the revolution for enterprise transformation. I’m left wondering if this will ultimately come back to bite FedEx. |
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Curt F., |
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Every city looks like a dump between the airport and the hotel. I’m a New Yorker who spends a lot of time in Memphis. Great restaurants, fabulous ribs, delectable red velvet cake, and oh what music! There are plenty of things to enjoy; too bad Mr. Andrews will never be invited back. Community feeling/pride is something big city folks can’t understand. PS — It could be that the FedEx folk didn’t get much out of the presentation, because they’re already there. Check out http://www.launchapackage.com. |
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wow. what a s***storm this has turned out to be. (and no, shankman’s site crashing is not my fault, despite what he claims.) @ Curt F. I too posted a negative (but I thought constructive) comment to Mr. Andrew’s blog. it’s awaiting moderation. other comments posted later than mine have been approved though, so… draw your own conclusions. just in case it never sees the light of day, here’s what I posted over there: James: as one of the people having a bit of fun about this at your expense — see http://blogs.computerworld.com.....ter_tricks — please allow me to apologize if I’ve caused you any pain. of course, it’s really shankman’s fault. I just piled on. now… about your explanation. if you were hoping to toss a bucket of water on this odd flamewar that erupted over your tweet, I don’t think you’ve succeeded. you wrote above that 140 characters doesn’t provide context. well, give us some context. all we know is that you had an unpleasant encounter with someone and you used twitter to vent. the devil is in the details, james. tell us your story and maybe the rest of us outside memphis who think you stuck your foot in it will sympathize. otherwise you just sound like another new yorker forced to venture south of new jersey and hang with the yokels to your endless distaste. what amazes me is that someone as highly placed in the PR world as you are can be so bad at damage control. what would you advise a client to do in this situation? surely not this. so how about taking another whack at it? the good news: this will all be over soon, and someone else will be roasting slowly over an open flamewar. cheers, dt |
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So you can’t be honest any more and be respected? If that is what he felt then that should be accepted as an oppinion and nothing more. People get upset over the stupidest things. |
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Yikes! |
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OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SNAP! What an asshat, oh well, try not to tweet negatively about those that butter your bread |
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Ouch is right! i am always having to think even more before i speak, & type now… wow- Look what the internet has done to us…:) |
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Business 101 in the digital age or any age…don’t bite the hand that feeds you. Talking in public about a client is just bad. |
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Or you could just make your posts private in the Twitter account settings and not have to worry about it. |
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I am amused. Mr. Andrews writes in his blog at http://www.thekeyinfluencer.com/channel/: “Two days ago I made a comment on Twitter that was the emotional response to a run in I had with an intolerant individual. The Tweet was aimed at the offense not the city of Memphis.” However, his tweet stated: “True confession but I’m in one of those towns where I scratch my head and say “I would die if I had to live here!” See any disconnect between the original statement and his explanation? In what way does his explanation cast him in a better light than his original remark? Either he’s making up an excuse that he believes places him in a more sympathetic light, or he’s especially poor at concisely and accurately capturing his thoughts. |
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How stupid to write a negative Tweat, then show the very people you wrote about how to find the comment! |
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I dont think he said anything wrong at all, he just doesnt like the place. |
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Proving again that corporate America must sugar coat everything, lie essentially) to make it palatable. So Memphis sucks. We don’t need a dumb-ass Twitterite to tell us which way the wind blows. |
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He might have to be careful, but I don’t: why the hell *would* you want to live there? It’s a big town, but there’s nothing to do. You can taste the boredom and death in the air. |
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Wow…I was about to install Twitter on my company site today….makes me think twice about that. Yikes! |
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Well It is not just about twitter, it’s everything online…social pics, blogs, your status on facebook…the fact is simple..if you use the web…assume nothing is private..so think before you type! |
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All is heard and seen in the new world archipelago. If it aint pc , it ain’t obama ,get used to it, back to paper and pencil for me. These aren’t “the good old days” |
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You can lock your Twitter feed and only allow friends to be able to see it. Some people have two accounts: one for friends, and one for business. |
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Funny incidents like these make Twitter even more popular. It is free publicity. |
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Sad to say…but many would agree with Mr. Andrews. |
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All because he said he didn’t like the town he was in?? Seriously?? wowwww. |
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I agree 100% with Anthony J. Colleluori aka That Lawyer Dude. I’m shocked that so many people have jumped on the Andrews-bashing bandwagon to ridicule a man who was being honest and open. |
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Love this….especially being from Memphis and a lifelong Tigers fan among other things… |
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If you don’t have anything nice to tweet, don’t And I would wager he had not tried the BBQ, or he would have bought a 2nd home there. |
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I have been to Memphis many times and I like it there and they have the best BBQ. I’m Born and raised in NY, but I wouldn’t want to live there so I moved out. |
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Over reaction. |
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An innocent mistake with horrible and overreacted outfall. THOUGH I have to say; You twittered this and you work in PR? |
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Such snitching, sniveling sorry excuses for humans those initial Fedex employees who sent it to upper management. Get a life and leave the guy alone. |
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Be very careful. He should not have written that considering he is the vice president of that company. |
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That post that Andrews made was just the kind of unwarranted arrogance that pervades advertising execs. Most agencies are filled with pompous, useless narcissists that add no value to the marketing and sales efforts of their clients. This clip from Youtube sums it up pretty well. |
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I’m an idiot, you != Offending FedEx Executive. I don’t know why I substituted you for him; sorry about that. Embarrassing. |
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FEDEX SUCKS!!!!! If they lose your package. (deliver it at the wrong address). All they say is “It was delivered on time” it doesn’t matter if it was delivered to the wrong address. |
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A clear case of ‘caveat twittor’ – a great snippet and reminder of the increasingly global need to think twice before hitting send. |
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This makes me want to hang around the airport at Memphis. Sounds like an interesting and colorful city. |
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